{"id":82,"date":"2004-10-17T12:54:28","date_gmt":"2004-10-17T17:54:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log2\/?p=82"},"modified":"2004-10-17T12:54:28","modified_gmt":"2004-10-17T17:54:28","slug":"four","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/2004\/10\/four\/","title":{"rendered":"Four"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A word about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.czechprimer.org\/nouns\/ctyri1.html\">four<\/a>.  It&#8217;s cruel to spring such a word on student who are just starting out learning Czech.  It&#8217;s a sign that they&#8217;re really in for some hard work.  Sure, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.czechprimer.org\/nouns\/tri1.html\">three<\/a> has that &#344; in it too, but I think many students figure they can get away with saying &#8220;tree,&#8221; and they&#8217;ll be understood.  But four really hits you with all the Czech-ness it can muster:  a &#269; right up front, and right next to a t where it shouldn&#8217;t be.  The y is weird enough, but then we&#8217;ve got that &#345;, and it seems like there&#8217;s no hope left!<\/p>\n<p>James Naughton&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0415161347\/thelittleczechpr\">Colloquial Czech<\/a> describes the Czech &#345; sound like this: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The real Czech specialty here is <strong>&#345;<\/strong>, a single sound which is pronounced like a flatly trilled <strong>r<\/strong> with a simultaneous \u017e\/\u0161-like friction.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;which is true, if unhelpful.  I think it sounds like a t plus a d plus a \u017e.  Also unhelpful.  At the very least, I can tell you this:  beginners shouldn&#8217;t replace the &#345; sound with a plain English r, because the sounds are nothing alike.  Pronounce it like \u017e (zh), and you might be better understood, even though they&#8217;ll think you have bad pronunciation.<\/p>\n<p>And beginners take heart.  Even Czech children have problems with this sound.  We&#8217;ve all heard about how babies can distinguish all sorts of different vocal sounds that adults may not be able to recognize, and if you don&#8217;t grow up hearing Navajo you&#8217;ll never understand those subtleties.  Well, Czech children (and some adults too) struggle to pronounce the &#345; correctly.  It&#8217;s taught and learned like any growing-up skill, rather than being something is picked up naturally like so much of language.  We have Czech friends who have a daughter, and they told us the story of the day when she finally learned how to say the &#345; sound correctly (I think she was three or four years old).  She was so excited to tell her father the news, when he came home she ran to him shouting, &#8220;Dad, I have a surprise!&#8221;  And instantly he knew what the surprise was, because the word surprise in Czech is p&#345;ekvapen\u00ed<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A word about four. It&#8217;s cruel to spring such a word on student who are just starting out learning Czech. It&#8217;s a sign that they&#8217;re really in for some hard work. Sure, three has that &#344; in it too, but I think many students figure they can get away with saying &#8220;tree,&#8221; and they&#8217;ll be &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/2004\/10\/four\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Four&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=82"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=82"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=82"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/czechprimer.org\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=82"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}